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A response to ISKCON GBC’s
“Not That I am Poisoned” (NTIP).
QUESTIONS TO BHAKTI CARU SWAMI
REGARDING THE POISONING OF SRILA PRABHUPADA
Attn: BHAKTI CARU SWAMI-2
Dear Bhakti Caru Swami,
Namaskar aur Pranam. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
After waiting for your reply, our patience has finally run out.
An innocent party would have no difficulty in answering our questions, so why are you making this exercise difficult? How can anyone believe in your innocence if you use "I don't know you" as an excuse for refusing to clear yourself of suspicion. Only a little while ago, you made a statement in the book- Not That I am Poisoned (99 p), "Waiting to receive your judgement and aspiring to remain a servant of the vaisnavas". We are not 'judging' you, we are simply asking some questions in connection with contradictions you made in your statement, but you even refuse to answer that. You recently wrote to our Godbrother, "I will be happy if you can successfully conduct an investigation to settle this issue once and for all. Please let me know how you want to go about that". So we are now trying to settle the issue once and for all, at no expense to you, but you are showing no happiness. In fact, you are behaving very suspiciously.
Nonetheless, our program to inform the world has now begun. A few thousand devotees, both inside and outside the ISKCON institution, will receive this post the same time you do, and in spite of your attempts to jam our access to 'pamho', which is a silly idea anyway. If you still refuse to answer the questions in our letter (below) within a fortnight, we will post it along with your attached photograph, to Life Members, the media, and legal fraternity, around the planet, and shall continue to expand the loop until you face the questionnaire.
Attn: BHAKTI CARU SWAMI- 1
Hare Krishna Bhakti Caru Swami,
Obeisances. All Glories to His Divine Grace.
Due to your apparent disregard in bringing to light certain details concerning the poisoning of His Divine Grace, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, your brief correspondence on the issue with another concerned party, has been passed on to us. You are now dealing directly with the Bhaktivedanta Investigation Force's Correspondence Secretary, or CS. If you have a desire to keep future correspondence confidential please let us know. Or, as is our policy, all mail will be posted on our web site for public viewing.
In a recent letter dated July 23/'03, you said: "I am not denying that Srila Prabhupada spoke about poison". Maharaja, allow us to draw your attention to the actualities:-
What Srila Prabhupada said was that he had heard "All these friends" discussing his poisoning. You were in the room. Not a single disciple there, not even you, refuted the allegation. To the contrary, we hear you say (on tape) very distinctly, "Someone gave him poison here!" And then, when Tamal Krishna Swami asked you if Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him, you said "YES". Now you say you are "not denying that Srila Prabhupada spoke ABOUT poison?" He said he thought that someone had poisoned him, and you clearly understood the fact, yet now you say he simply spoke ABOUT poison.
1) Why are you blatantly mitigating documented evidence?
2) Do you concede that Srila Prabhupada WAS THINKING SOMEONE HAD POISONED HIM, or not?
In that same letter (July 23/'03), and in the same paragraph, you confess: "As a matter of fact, when we heard His Divine Grace speaking in that way, we became extremely worried".
3) So why did YOU become extremely worried if Srila Prabhupada was simply speaking ABOUT poison?
4) If you (et all) were extremely worried, as you say, why didn't you alert the authorities to a possible homicide in progress, or after the fact?
5)Who decided against informing Law Enforcement/pathology? Was it you?
6) May we have the names of the WE whom you refer to, and also the name/s of the person/s who decided not to investigate Srila Prabhupada's complaint?
You then attempt (in the same letter) to perpetuate the lie that Srila Prabhupada said "not that I am poisoned" as a statement in itself, even after he had openly stated, and you, along with the others, vocally accepted/admitted that he thought he was being poisoned.
Kaviraja: "Yeh Maharaja, yeh kotha aap kaise bola aaj ki koi bola hi ki poison diya hai?........"
Kaviraja: "Dekhye, bat yeh hai, ki koi rakshas ne diyo ho."....
Kaviraja: "Yeh bolte hai to isme kuch na kuch satya he. Isme koi sandeha nahin."....
Bhakticaru: "Someone gave him poison here!"
Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada, Sastriji says that there must be some truth to it if you say that. So who is it that has poisoned?
Tamal Krsna: "Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him." [(((audio)))]
Tamal Krishna: "That was the mental distress?"
Bhakticaru: "YES." [(((audio)))]
Bhakticaru: "He said that when Srila Prabhupada was saying that (He was being poisoned) THERE MUST BE SOME TRUTH BEHIND IT."
Tamal Krishna: "We asked Srila Prabhupada later what was the cause of his mental disturbance. Prabhupada disclosed his thoughts that someone has poisoned him." (TKG's Diary, 340p.)
In spite of the accord transcribed above, you are now (twenty-five years later) attempting to circumvent documented evidence by telling us that Srila Prabhupada said he was 'not poisoned'. This is what you wrote in your letter:
"Tamal Krsna Maharaj asked Srila Prabhupada about it and Srila Prabhupada replied, "NO. These kind of symptoms are seen when a man is poisoned. He said like that, not that I am poisoned."
By neglecting to include what Tamal Krishna actually said, you have excluded the fact that His Divine Grace was informed (and accepted the diagnosis) he had the symptoms of a man who is poisoned, ipso facto he believed he was poisoned, otherwise he would not have mentioned it. Here it is-
Tamal Krishna: "Srila Prabhupada? You said before that you...that it is said that you were poisoned?" [(((audio)))]
This tells us that Tamal Krishna knew and admits to the presence of an informant, and his question reveals that Srila Prabhupada raised the matter of his poisoning (also confirmed by audio evidence). So how would Tamal Krishna have known unless Srila Prabhupada told him about it (and you?). Which prompts the question- if Srila Prabhupada raised the subject, why would he do so only to say that he was not poisoned? It doesn't make any sense.
Now we will look at Srila Prabhupada's answer, which you claim "relieved us".
Srila Prabhupada: "No. These kind of symptoms are seen when a man is poisoned. He said like that, not that I am poisoned".
The above statement tells us Srila Prabhupada's was informed he had the symptoms, but his informant had not said directly that he was poisoned. Nonetheless, His Divine Grace did believe he had been poisoned. This is how we read it, and this is how YOU, Tamal Krishna, the Kaviraja, and everyone in the room understood it. The proof is there for all to hear, and is attested to through the following statements made by Tamal Krishna, Damodara Prasad Sastri and YOURSELF. Here are the statements (below) made AFTER the so called not that I am poisoned statement, which you claim (in your letter) relieved us, but proves that you are being delusive because, in fact, none of you were 'relieved'. Ergo you (et al) stand culpable of neglect to alert authorities to a possible homicide in progress:
SP: No, these kind of symptoms are seen when a man is poisoned. He said like that, not that I am poisoned.
TK: Did anyone tell you that or you know it from before? [(((audio)))] (Know what from before...that he was NOT POISONED?)
SP: I read something, (Read what...that he was NOT POISONED?)
TK: Ah, I see. That's why actually we cannot allow anyone to cook for you. (Why would Tamal want to stop "anyone" from cooking for SP, is it because SP said he was NOT POISONED?)
Directly after Srila Prabhupada was supposed to have admitted (according to your letter) that he was not poisoned, here's what the kaviraja had to say:
KAVIRAJA: (translated) "Look, this is the thing, that maybe some rakshasa gave him poison". (Why didn't the kaviraja believe SP when he said 'NOT THAT I AM POISONED'?).
KAVIRAJA: (translated) "If he says (that he has been poisoned) there must be some truth to it. (Hindi) [(((audio)))] There's no doubt". (If no one present at the time, believed that SP had said 'NOT THAT I AM POISONED' as a statement in itself, how can you, Maharaja, ask us to believe it now?)
Just to jog your memory, we'll throw in YOUR 'disbelief', spoken AFTER the not that I am poisoned quote, that you say, gave you (et al) relief:
Bhakticaru: "He's saying that someone gave him poison". (And you say you were 'relieved'?)
Tamal Krishna: "Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him". [(((audio)))]
Tamal Krishna: "That was the mental distress?" [(((audio)))]
Bhakticaru: "YES". (And you say you were relieved because he said that he was not poisoned?)
So now Maharaja, in light of the evidence presented above, we ask you:-
7) Do you accede that His Divine Grace had apprised you (et al) of his poisoning?
8) Do you concede that everyone there attested to the fact?
9) Do you still expect us to believe that Srila Prabhupada said he was 'not poisoned'?
10) Do you still insist that you (et al) were 'relieved' in spite of the transcripts noted above?
11) Do you or don't you, accept the 'not that I am poisoned' excerpt to be a distortion of the truth?
It becomes clear from your letter that you have some apprehension about what took place in 1977. You have written: "It is still a mystery to me why Srila Prabhupada spoke that way".
12) If it is a mystery to which you are an innocent party, why did you not initiate a professional investigation in 1977, or since?
Instead, you secretly financed the book Not That I am Poisoned to further shroud the mystery with smoke and mirrors. We have shown in our report (Judge For Yourself) how Tamal Krishna worked behind the scenes to create a diversion from the truth (his followers even named the book- Not That I am Poisoned after his suggestion), and now we have proof that you financed that book,:
13) Why did you finance a book that has since proved to be wrongful in its purposeful misquoting of professional submissions; inaccurate and deceptive in its interpretation of facts; unfounded in its assumptions; biased in favour of those who commissioned its authorship; unprofessional in its ethic; and cultic in that it attempts to use the weight of authority to quell inquiry and subvert the truth.
14) Why did you so eagerly abandon the 'mystery' of your Guru Maharaja's complaint to hide behind a shield of deception paid for by you?
And since there is no mention of you in the book's credits, we must assume that you requested your participation in its publication to be kept secret: conspiratorial. So it appears that you are quite open to the elements of mystery, conspiracy and deception.
15) Why did you finance a publication keyed in your defence, paid for by you, and then request no mention of your involvement?
Further you have written: "I cannot even imagine in my remotest dream that any of Srila Prabhupada's disciples could have given him poison. That is why I do not believe that there is a cover up".
Tamal Krishna: "Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him". [(((audio)))]
Bhakticaru: "YES". [(((audio)))]
Firstly, we must ask what accreditation you possess in Criminal Psychology? How do you identify a poisoner, or positively guarantee that one is not? If you could detect a poisoner whose crime demands stealth, then you could quite easily identify a paedophile. So why didn't you? You are in the guru business- can you tell a bhogi from a yogi? The truth is, even state-of-the-art forensics must use highly specified toxic screens to identify poison. Ergo, a full scale investigation is necessary to identify a poisoner. Nevertheless, the only possibility of temporary escape for a poisoner once suspect, is for associates to give sanctuary by muddying the facts, as is being attempted here. But it is only a temporary measure, and in the event of fait accompli being established, charges of complicity follow.
Secondly, you say 'That is why I do not believe that there is a cover up". Maharaja, may we remind you that the matter WAS covered up for two decades. The "poison issue" was NEVER revealed by you or any of your confederacy. It was brought to public notice five years ago by a devotee who, realizing the import of the tapes, concealed them. The secret drove him insane and he was admitted to a mental institution. Even after his release, he kept the tapes hidden for fear of his life. He finally surrendered them a few years ago to audio forensic examination, which surprisingly, revealed "poison whispers" in the background. The 'whispers' confirmed Srila Prabhupada's sharp hearing...ALL THESE FRIENDS. It was only later, after publication of the "Conversations" series, we discovered that copies of the very same tapes existed in the BBT archives. We then contacted the BBT and requested they, personally, hand the tapes over for audio forensic examination. This was done, and confirmed to be identical in every respect with the tapes we processed. You know these details, but your letters indicate an ongoing attempt to deflect the facts, even after we have made our report available for your perusal.
16) His Divine Grace said he was being poisoned; you (et al) can be heard on tape admitting it. He heard you "friends" discussing his poisoning before he raised the subject. We can identify every man in the room. Why do you now say that you cannot imagine in my remotest dreams that any of Srila Prabhupada's disciples could have given him poison?
Tamala Krsna: Put poison in different containers. That's all right. [(((audio)))]
17) Do you believe it could have been done by someone else, although disciples were discussing it?
18) Who do you think did it? How did they do it? When did they do it? Where did they do it? What did they achieve by doing it? And why were you 'friends' and self proclaimed inheritors the only ones standing to profit?
19) What accreditation do you have in jurisprudence, giving you office to acquit, as you are here doing, those who like you, are suspect in the alleged poisoning of His Divine Grace?
20) Do you actually believe, in view of the revelations, that twenty years of silence by YOU and your confederacy does not in fact betray a concerted effort to cover-up a murder conspiracy?
Anyhow, you should acknowledge by now our grasp of the evidence in hand; and there is more. Please do not waste our time and demean your eminence by revisiting issues like the not that I am poisoned nonsense. You have asked for an investigation to be conducted, and you have asked how to go about it- "I will be happy if you can successfully conduct an investigation to settle this issue once and for all. Please let me know how you want to go about that". This makes us all very happy, and if you are serious about the offer then we can make rapid progress in bringing this matter to an end. Please give us some reassurance that it is your intent to settle this matter once and for all by addressing our queries Should your heart be free of this heavy sin, then we will work swiftly to exonerate you If on the other hand there is a degree of complicity, we will help you in every way possible to justify its revelation. But if you persist in dicing with us, you will find no peace in this world or the next. Of this you are assured.
Jaya Srila Prabhupada!
We highly recommend that readers should hear the whispers for themselves also.
Kaviraja: speaks in Hindi.....
Tamala Krsna: Put poison in different containers. That's all right.
Audio Clip in MP3 Format - [(((audio)))]
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Audio-CD with the poison whispers
mp3-poison-cd.zip (45 MB)
Please also see:
BHAKTI CHARU SWAMI'S COVER-UP (coming soon)